There are so many design definition discussions going on right now and to be honest all the time. Let’s open up the focus a bit more. How about the definition of engineering, science, creative industry and all this stuff these days? Which kind of value do the old profession names have in times where designers or design consultancies are doing a great job in taking over a lot of the tasks and responsibilities in turn key projects for new product developments, tasks which I normally would clearly define as responsibilities of engineers in the old days? And if an engineer (german engineer I suppose) would read the first pages of Tim Brown’s very insightful book “Change by Design“ where he writes about GWR and Mr.Brunel, perhaps the engineer should ask himself where he had lost this great spirit and why did this spirit went over to the designers and so called design thinkers.